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Aug 5 2010, 07:18 AM
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Caliph ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 27-June 08 Member No.: 27 |
they create situations in which the Imperium can survive: Survival is Vindication of struggle.
Maybe ? GNOME -------------------- False eyes true lies
She has false eyes Tell her true lies False eyes true lies I'll play along False eyes true lies She has false eyes Tell her true lies She has false eyes I'll play along --Dandelion Wine, "Thin Air" |
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Aug 5 2010, 04:09 PM
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Master Gunner ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 731 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Pembroke Pines, FL Member No.: 9 |
I do think you've pretty well got it worked out. I'm not sure I like the idea of "snatching" 'vindicatable' people for use as recruits, maybe because it doesn't sound 40Kish enough. The whole point of 40K is 'THERE IS NO JUSTICE.' And the whole point of vindication is to overcome injustice. I can definitely see this though, now I think of it, as being a reason for Ryjak to be interested in the chapter (ie, for much the same reasons the Inquisition are becoming more interested in, say, the 28th Cadian and the Fighting Tigers).
'20th Century sensibilities? Heresy!' -------------------- Ya gotta remember that Jen is one of those absent-minded academic types. You know, the ones that are brilliant but have difficulty dressing themselves. -- Brother Julian, pulling Jen's chain
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Aug 5 2010, 04:59 PM
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![]() Logistician ![]() Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 25-June 08 Member No.: 23 |
Hmm. "Justice" is not a 20th-century concept. Neither is "vindication".
A shorthand look at two historical concepts of justice are the Greek goddess Themis (also the goddess of social order, prophecy, and sacred oaths), and the Germanic god Forseti (also the god of mediation, ending strife, and laws). Vindicators could easily work either of these two approaches and still be appropriately grim and dark, as befits the 40K universe -------------------- De Gubernaculo Venimus et Adservirevos Volumus
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Aug 5 2010, 05:47 PM
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![]() Gunner ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 29-July 08 Member No.: 56 |
Tell you what, Ken, we'll discuss it dinner tomorrow night before I go to work. Or not.
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